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AMD Motherboards : RAM XMP only works sometimes!

September 19, 2017, 9:56 pm
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Author: nangu
Subject: RAM XMP only works sometimes!
Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 4:56am

Hi,

It's probably a memory training and/or an unstable memory OC.

In my case, I had to set the DRAM voltage up to 1.375v (1.35v default for the XMP profile) to workaround the cold boot issue.

Anyway, I suggest to check for memory stability at XMP profile by running some stress test and/or gaming sessions in Windows. If your memory OC stress test fails, you will need to tone down to 2800 or 2666 memory speeds and learn how to configure timings and other memory related settings in order to try to stabilize your desired overclock.

Cheers, 
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AMD Motherboards : AGESA 1.0.0.6b

September 19, 2017, 9:57 pm
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Author: lowdog
Subject: AGESA 1.0.0.6b
Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 4:57am

Originally posted by datonyb datonyb wrote:

you know llc 5 is the weakest ?
llc 2 or 1 is the tightest to maintain voltage as set

i ask because if i was having voltage move about more than i wanted MY llc would be set to level 1



As I mentioned these are the exact same settings I had in bios 3.0 with Agesa 1.0.0.6a and it did not exhibit the same behaviour that is occurring with bios 3.10 with Agesa 1.0.0.6b......the problem lies in the new bios.

Edited by lowdog - 1 hour 34 minutes ago at 4:58am
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AMD Motherboards : ASROCK AB350 PRO4

September 20, 2017, 2:56 pm
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Author: parsec
Subject: ASROCK AB350 PRO4
Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 9:56pm

Originally posted by misteruic misteruic wrote:

IOMMU option - Enable :(

At some point, 5 video cards are loaded. But the device manager shows an error "code 12"

This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. If you want to use this device, you will need to disable one of the other devices on this system


I disable the built-in sound. What else can I disable? How to turn off m.2? How to turn off the built-in network card? I can not find this parameter in the BIOS

p.s.  on the forum people advise in the BIOS to change the parameter TOLUD (Top Of Low Usable DRAM) - auto - Dinamic - 3.5GB . Here can I find this parameter in the BIOS?   



If your board's UEFI/BIOS had the TOLUD option, it would be in the North Bridge or South Bridge Configuration screen. I doubt this board has that option, it is not usually provided with most boards.

What people don't understand is, a bitcoin mining configuration requires some very different and specific features in the board's UEFI/BIOS. Also, the board itself needs to be designed for bitcoin mining. We cannot expect that any board available can become a bitcoin mining system, with every PCIe slot used with a video card.

The options to disable all the other hardware used in a board are not provided, because most people use the board's sound, network chip, etc. For most people, those options are useless.

I know the message from Device Manager said to disable other devices, but that does not guarantee it will free up enough resources to allow more video cards to work. You can disable some devices with their Device Manager entry.

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AMD Motherboards : GSkill Trident Z RGB / RGB not functional

September 20, 2017, 4:02 pm
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Author: Jhelms
Subject: GSkill Trident Z RGB / RGB not functional
Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 11:02pm

Parsec, no offense taken :) But you missed the part where I have even tried a fresh install with NO other RGB software and same thing. Works in A1 / B1 but not A2 / B2.

Wardog - much appreciated!

Gskill is piggybacked off asus aura which was somewhat cool in concept but has so many issues like SPD corruption or conflicts as everyone is trying to do their own thing. I really cannot stand the way Gskill implemented it though, in a way that a program starts and assigns the color profile at every boot. It should have had a tiny amount of non volatile memory in which you could assign the profile and it was set for the life of the ram or until you manually loaded a new profile. That would axe all this compatibility nonsense. Anyways - is what it is and GSkill has pretty much gone dark on it as they know they have a royal mess on their hands.

I am only here as this appears to be partially bios since for whatever reason, A2 B2 seem to be hidden. But it could be a million things like their "Beta" software that has not seen an update in many months.
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Intel Motherboards : X99 Extreme4 with Kingston SKC1000

September 20, 2017, 4:13 pm
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Author: Preca
Subject: X99 Extreme4 with Kingston SKC1000
Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 11:13pm

Hi,
System Browser shows as empty



Nothing about NVMe on Advanced
Still shows not detected


And nothing about this on Chipset configuration



Possible not support or damaged... Unhappy

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AMD Motherboards : AGESA 1.0.0.6b

September 20, 2017, 4:30 pm
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Author: nangu
Subject: AGESA 1.0.0.6b
Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 11:30pm

Was a little bored yesterday and decided to take another shoot at memory OC.

Tried 3066, managed to get it past boot and stress test it on Windows. After two hours of stress testing while watching a stream without errors, decided to look at some benchmarks to compare with my previous results @2933.

Rebooted to UEFI, adjusted fan curves a bit, save, restart, and bam!! Dr Debug's F9 festival. I couldn't boot anymore with memory @3066 :-(

I think AMD and motherboard's vendors need to address this cold boot / memory training problems. I find hard to believe a setting which is stable at stress testing, never sticks at reboot or cold boot.

Tha same applies at memory's voltage at boot. I can run perfectly stable @2933 at my memory rated voltage of 1.35v, but It need 1.375v to avoid F9 fest at cold boot. Hint: We need memory boot voltage setting in UEFI as ASUS boards.

Also, going from @2933 to @3066 needs a lot of voltages increase (when it posts if you're lucky enough). VDram from 1.375v to 1.40v, SoC from 0.92v to 1.1v.

I don't know where the culpruit lies: It's a weak IMC controller on the CPU? It's a memory automatic settings and/or training issues? It's a poor DDR4 design on motherboard?

I know AMD's specs lists @2666 as max memory supported btw, so @2933 I can reach stable is a bonus actually, but I think there is a problem somewhere anyway, because a stress test stable RAM @3066 on Windows which doesn't past training 9 of 10 times, it's an AGESA and/or UEFI design problem in my books. 

Thanks for reading, and sorry for my little rant :-) 
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AMD Motherboards : Question for taichi users

September 20, 2017, 5:32 pm
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Author: Asingo
Subject: Question for taichi users
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 12:32am

bump

- Do you know maybe which version of corsair ram is mine? I use CMK16GX4M2B3200C16. On taichi QVL is listed this memorys: CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 ver:5.30, CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 ver 4.23
and CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 ver3.32. Mine is between them? All that are listed on 3000mhz C15 so I should be able to hit minimum 3000mhz with current bios?

- Will I with wifi on taichi have good signal since my router is on the floor below, 7 meters away from my pc?
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AMD Motherboards : Fastboot issue

September 20, 2017, 5:37 pm
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Author: BurritoBrownie
Subject: Fastboot issue
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 12:37am

Got another of the same board. Machine is working flawless! Disabled memory training , boot us cosiderably faster. Thank you for the helpful information!
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AMD Motherboards : AGESA 1.0.0.6b

September 20, 2017, 6:02 pm
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Author: wardog
Subject: AGESA 1.0.0.6b
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 1:02am

nangu, was that with Memory Training :Disabled ?

Hint: Or, my experiences here........ Start with SoC at 1.1, VDram at ? called for, VTT_DDR runs half of VDram and I'll and a pinch, like, if VDram at 1.375 I'll make VTTT_DDR 0.69/0.695/0.700

SoC you can back down once your mem begins responding. You'll know when it "begins responding" as it's like being perched on the fence. A little this way, a little that way, and all will still be stable. Versus pushing it all uphill.



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AMD Motherboards : Ryzen and Gloway, power on but no display. RAM?

September 20, 2017, 6:43 pm
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Author: datonyb
Subject: Ryzen and Gloway, power on but no display. RAM?
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 1:43am

gloway ram

Smile
supply two types of ddr4
cl 16 2400
and cl15 2133

to be honest i doubt either uses samsung ic's

you should at least get it booting with crucial ram several youtube channels seem to rate it ok for ryzen (and 2666 at least)

hopefully its just that mate
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AMD Motherboards : AB350M Won't Post -- Bootloop only

September 20, 2017, 6:45 pm
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Author: Raphielh
Subject: AB350M Won't Post -- Bootloop only
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 1:45am

Hey everyone,

I am building a pc for a friend (about 10th build overall) and really having some trouble. Any help will be appreciated.

Regarding this build, I attempted to assemble an MSI B350M gaming pro, Ryzen 5 (1500X), and Corsair Vengeance Ram (8GB x 2, 2400MHz, low profile) into a new build for my friends. I tell you this as that mobo had a on board debug light system proving the ram and GPU were not the issue, but the CPU. According to MSI support, that mobo wasn't compatible with Ryzen 5 without an update, and due to limitations of me being around to help fix this, it was returned.

Consequently, I purchased an ASRock AB350M and currently have it connected with Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 2400MHz ram as well as a brand new EVGA GeForce 210 graphics card. I didn't want to get into the situation with the first build, where I connected everything without first testing it at its most basic.

The motherboard powers on (power LED light as well as CPU fan spin [CPU fan seems to be running fast/louder than expected]), does NOT post (no video sent to the monitor), and reboots after about 26 seconds. This continues until I manually power down.  

RAM testing - I have tried using 1 stick each in the different slots; no help with switching RAM
Graphics card - I don't think this is the issue since it is power cycling
CPU - I did use ArctiClean and put new thermal paste on the CPU and CPU fan. I don't know of a way to test this independently.
Bios- Sticker on motherboard is P1.20, and from what I can read, Ryzen 5 should be supported at all bios levels.

I'm currently out of state working on their rig but won't be here for lunch. Any help would be so greatly appreciated, as some of the parts are nearing the end of a return/exchange period. I did email support but there was no time frame to which I could expect a response.

Thanks again!
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AMD Motherboards : Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU

September 20, 2017, 6:46 pm
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Author: Rope
Subject: Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 1:46am

 

Just built a new Threadripper PC (first build in 7 years) and other than 2 issues, system is working and stable. 

 
Issue 1;  Enabling/Auto IOMMU option in bios (1.50) will cause Windows 10 Pro not to boot.  It hangs at the blue Windows logo screen and requires a reboot to get out of.  (Ran into this issue during installation as well.  Bios 1.50 comes with the option set to Auto).
 
Issue 2.  F4-3200C14Q-32GTZR ram (4x8) only boots at 2133 Mhz.  Before purchasing I saw reviews getting their 4x8 -14D ram working at 3200 (2 sets of the F4-3200C14D-16GTZR), so I assumed the 4 dim kit would work as well (my fault for assuming).  RGB works fine (I have no RGB control software installed).  Sticks are installed in A2/B2/C2/D2 slots as per Taichi manual. 
 
I have a small overclock to the CPU (running 3.7, no cooling/temperature issues) and some fan adjustments but no other changes to the bios.  Bios/Win10 see all 32 GB.  Passed several memory diagnostics and stress tests.
 
No XMP profile will work other than 2133.  4 sticks or 2 sticks, will not post at anything other than 2133.  Is their any recourse for this?   Been ages since I have played around with manual timings, so any advice if I should try that?  Bite the bullet and return the sticks to Newegg for some QVL sticks in hopes that they function correctly?
 
Thanks.
 
 
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AMD Motherboards : Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU

September 20, 2017, 8:47 pm
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Author: Rope
Subject: Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 3:47am

Hit the CMOS to reset the bios, so no overclock, set the timings, and no luck.  Can't get past b0 on Dr Debug.

Wouldn't even boot at XMP 2133 with those timings. 

Took 2 sticks out and tried with just the two in A2/B2 - same results. 

Tried with 1 stick and wouldn't even POST. 

Also, noticed (before this whole thing process started) Windows 10 was hardware reserving 8GB of memory, so I only had 24GB available to me in windows.  Not sure what the culprit is with that.
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AMD Motherboards : Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU

September 20, 2017, 8:58 pm
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Author: Rope
Subject: Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 3:58am

Scratch that, got XMP3200 to work with 2 sticks in D2/C2.  Timings of 16/16/16/16/38/54.  Going to try with 4 sticks next. 

Also with the 2 sticks in D2/C2, there was no hardware reserve being used by windows. Well 120MB, is being used.


Edited by Rope - 2 hours 6 minutes ago at 4:00am
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AMD Motherboards : Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU

September 20, 2017, 9:12 pm
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Author: Rope
Subject: Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 4:12am

Ok, next update.  Booted with 3 sticks - D2/C2/A2 - would not boot as 3200 even with the same timings.  Boots as single channel.  Also, hardware reserve uses up 8 gb again.

Put the Ram in D2/C2/B2, boots as single channel and at 3200.  Hardware reserve in windows is back to 120 mb.

Going to try 4 sticks in the A1/B1/C1/D1 and see how that performs.  Otherwise, I believe my motherboard has an issue with the A memory slots and will most likely need to be RMA'd as the memory works well.
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AMD Motherboards : X370 Taichi 0x00000d1 driver_irql_not_less* PCI

September 20, 2017, 9:13 pm
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Author: sdtyler78
Subject: X370 Taichi 0x00000d1 driver_irql_not_less* PCI
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 4:13am

yea I'm on w7 x64 
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AMD Motherboards : Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU

September 20, 2017, 9:20 pm
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Author: Rope
Subject: Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 4:20am

Last thing I can try, so A1/B1/C1/D1 boots as quad channel, however, hardware reserve shoots back up to 8gb and the ram will not post at 3200, only 2133. 

So, looks like there is an issue with my motherboards A ram slots. 

Going to look into a RMA of the motherboard.  I like this board enough and was very easy to work with.  Hopefully the RMA goes well, if so I will be sticking with ASRock.

Actually, one question before I really dive into this process:
Would this be an issue with mobo or with my TR chip?  I believe the memory controller is on the TR chip and could that be the issue and not the mobo itself?


Edited by Rope - 1 hour 34 minutes ago at 4:32am
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Intel Motherboards : Z97X Killer/3.1 More than 3 GPU support

September 20, 2017, 9:30 pm
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Author: at10ti0n
Subject: Z97X Killer/3.1 More than 3 GPU support
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 4:30am

The system does boot into windows 10 (64bit) without problems, but the mining program crashes after a couple of minutes, when all 6 gpu's are connected.

I was asking for an updated bios where those options of enabling 4g and changing the TOLUD are avaiable, as the last up-to-date verison (1.50) does not contain it.

Hope this sheds some more light on my issue.
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AMD Motherboards : Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU

September 20, 2017, 9:50 pm
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Author: datonyb
Subject: Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 4:50am

well to be fair

the ram is 'ryzen friendly'
alas experiance with threadripper isnt my forte

did you raise the dram and soc volts also ?


Edited by datonyb - 1 hour 15 minutes ago at 4:51am
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AMD Motherboards : Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU

September 20, 2017, 9:57 pm
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Author: Rope
Subject: Asrock x399 Taichi, XMP and IOMMU
Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 4:57am

Nope.  All I did was just enable the xmp3200 profile and change the timings.  Will try going back to just D2/C2 and simply select the xmp profile and see if that works without changing the timings. 

Yea, D2/C2 just select XMP3200 and booted up no issue.  Definitely leaning towards it being an issue with the motherboard.  Oh well, Newegg made the RMA relatively easy, so we'll see how it goes.


Edited by Rope - 1 hour 3 minutes ago at 5:03am
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